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TaylorT
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:57 am

Jonathan .B wrote:

So why do chruches tell you to spread the word of the lord?

so that others can believe

i would love to see you become a christian some day












BobbyAlter wrote:
Jonathan, don't talk to Taylor about Christianity. I am glad he is so passionate about it, but really is not a good defendant of the religion

do i need to defend it? if you dont like it, then whatever thats your opinion

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:05 am

Jonathan .B wrote:
taylor what your saying is basically translating to you are invited and enlightened into the christian faith from god
So why do chruches tell you to spread the word of the lord?:

one last thing
taylor, you said that i havent been enlightened yet, so im not a christian
now poeple have tried to tell me about the lord god, but im not christian
so if what you say is true, then theres no point of spreading god's word
so ya thats my last post unless you can contradict this, which you wont bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:15 am

Jonathan .B wrote:

taylor, you said that i havent been enlightened yet, so im not a christian

no you can be a christian without being "enlightened"

im done here

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:18 am

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The real Hebrew name for god is Yahweh. I'm going to stop this fight right now.

Jonathon does not have to believe us, because he has not seen or experienced god's loving power. i have, and many other Christians have.

apparently........i do Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:25 am

no you dont
theres a difference from knowing god and experiencing god

all you have to do is know god and accept him to be a christian


now im done here,lol Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:32 am

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:45 am

yeah i dont like where this thread is going
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:58 am

ok bobby

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:12 pm

lol is there a problem taylor?
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:16 pm

nope

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 5:06 am

Jonathan .B wrote:
taylor what your saying is basically translating to you are invited and enlightened into the christian faith from god
So why do chruches tell you to spread the word of the lord?
if the lord wants you in his faith then aparently hell enlighten you, and aparently i havent been enlightened yet, thats why im not christian apparently Rolling Eyes

You are very ignorant.
GOD wants us to tell people about him so we do not go to hell.
We humnas [u]earned
our way to hell through sin. That's why God came down to earth as half human half god but as a sinless man since he is god. He then died for us and gave us the choice whether to choose to follow him or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 6:00 am

Zach Padilla wrote:

We humnas [u]earned our way to hell through sin.

Your not helping your case by (A) posting unsubstantiated statements and (B) not being able to use proper grammar and spelling.
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 6:06 am

Sorry I am at basketball practice on a phone. Sorry for the grammar I'm on a phone

But if you read the bible then you would know that it is said that we have earned our way to hell but God is the way to not go to hell.


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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 6:06 am

listen to this-
if there is no god, then so what if were Christians? if there is, then we go to heaven!

all you need to do is repent and ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 8:14 am

thats really doesnt make sense, liek the wording of it i mean
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 8:56 am

if there is no god, then its ok for me to be a christian, because there would be nothingness, when i die, right? but if there is a god, then i go to heaven because im a christian.

its a win win

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 9:56 am

if there is no god, then the whole basis of Christianity would be ruined, there would be no central axis
and if someone can prove god is not anything at all but an idea, then you shouldn't think there still isn't any god
its juts not christian

and even then if you still believed in christianity with no god, then you would think you would go to hell because then there would be no heaven
im not to confident with that statement tho, unless it can be right
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 10:13 am

Dude seriously what do you not understand? It is a personal choice.
And I want to ask a question for everyone.
What is scientology? I have heard of it but am too lazy to look in to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 10:15 am

Jonathan .B wrote:
if there is no god, then the whole basis of Christianity would be ruined, there would be no central axis
and if someone can prove god is not anything at all but an idea, then you shouldn't think there still isn't any god
its juts not christian

and even then if you still believed in christianity with no god, then you would think you would go to hell because then there would be no heaven
im not to confident with that statement tho, unless it can be right

no
im saying, if there is no heaven or hell and no gods, then so what if im a christian? if there is a god (my god), then ill go to heaven

again, win win

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 10:19 am

He saying that it is stupid. But again it is a personal choice that most people will have to make.
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 10:21 am

if there is no central believe or any gods or any kingdom or anything to believe into that is of higher power, then its not a religion, so if you were christian, with nothing to belive in, then you'd belive in nothing
so its more of an oxymoran, and a win in your mind i guess, but not in mine
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 10:24 am

oh my gosh. nevermind, you clearly dont understand

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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sat May 01, 2010 11:49 am

Wow! Do you not understand?
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sun May 02, 2010 1:35 am

am i not right when i say that someone cant consider themselves christian (or catholic or anything similar) if they dont beleive in one main thing that that religion beleives in? like i think i read somewhere that someone beleives in God but not in adam and eve. sooo thats basically making up your own religion, which is obviously fake b/c it was just made up by people.
idk just wondering
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PostSubject: Re: Religious Debate continued   Sun May 02, 2010 2:04 am

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