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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:43 am

yeah thats what i gettin to^
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:22 am

We have historical evidence of a Jesus of Nazareth in multiple factual documents, so yes, Jesus was a person who lived in the middle east in ancient times who taught very Buddhist like lessons. We don't know if he claimed to be the son of god, or if that was just written about him. Also, the story of Noah and the Ark is taken from the flood of Gilgamesh, which would have, at the time, seemed like the entire world to the nomadic peoples who hadn't ventured beyond the area.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:39 am

use less words lol

k so my response to people saying the world is millions and billions of years old is that in the Bible it says that in God's eye, one day is like thousands of years. so the seven day process could have been a really long time lol

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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:34 am

If the flood did not happen why do they find sea shells on top of Mount Everest?
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:02 am

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If the flood did not happen why do they find sea shells on top of Mount Everest?

Plate Tectonics
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:25 pm

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And Johnathan here is my proof that God exists.
Our complex human bodies. Our beautiful world filled with beautiful things inside of it. These things were created with a purpose and these things did just happen by chance.

Ok, im Christian/Cathlic i DO believe in god, but i just have a cool come-back type thing, These things COULD happen by chance because space in FILLED with universes and galaxes, imagine it like being bubble wrap, imagime the little pockets of air as a galaxe, the bubble wrap is spread the size of a football field, there is bound to be a galaxie with living life form like us. And our bodys HAVE to be compex if we wanna have a fully funcional body. And another little thing is couldn't the "Bible" be wrong? Couldn't the people of Nazarets or whatever be wrong? They could be thinking of aliens as god back then, why do you think all religions point up?
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:29 pm

They point up cuz there ain't nothin down here.

Know can provw they were right or wrong to a certain extent, because so much time has passed. So yeah they could be wrong. But I certainly believe a whole lot of it.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:32 pm

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They point up cuz there ain't nothin down here.

Know can provw they were right or wrong to a certain extent, because so much time has passed. So yeah they could be wrong. But I certainly believe a whole lot of it.

Please quote me if your talking about me thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:36 pm

Why Would I d that if I'm answering directly to you.
And I'm on my phone, I can't use the auto quote and idk or care how to do it manually.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:42 pm

Ok, well they CAN say that god is everywhere not just up. Why did they choose up?
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:17 am

one thing about the bible possibly being wrong,is that, if it is, whatever! im still a Christian and i still believe in this Bible

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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:27 am

if you believe in science then you are cheating if your christian
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:28 am

what?

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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:54 am

becuase science cancels most peices of christian history
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:05 am

the bible is bs.

science is proven fact...
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:46 am

Christian history would refer to Christians as a specified group, not the bible timeline. During the crusades, those who subscribed to the western version of Christianity (the part that made catholicism, evangelism, protestantism, etc.) killed off the middle eastern Christians because they didn't have the same belief structure. The Middle eastern Christians thought about Jesus' teachings as more of a non-literal moral guide, with heaven being a state of consciousness, and read the bible in it's entirety including the gnostic gospels and the other lost gospels(e.g. the gospel of Judas.) The same middle eastern Christians and the followers of Islam are who you can thank for keeping those gospels safe from the destruction of the crusades.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:59 am

Jonathan .B wrote:
becuase science cancels most peices of christian history


in a sense yeah, but im not really a pastor or anything so i have no reply to that actually.

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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:52 am

blosom wrote:
the bible is bs.

science is proven fact...

Haha. If you have actually known anything then you would know that there is no true facts that God does not exist or that the bible is B.S.

Science is not proven fact. Please show me one fact that the Bible is not true.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:57 am

But if God doesn't exist why are we here and why do we have intellectual brains, a conscience and the right of passage.

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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:40 am


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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:48 am

i have one fact, there are no dinosaurs in the bible
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:13 am

Yes there are Johnathon.
In the book of Job they talk of a long necked creature coming out of the water. I don't fully remember but it was in my Dinosaurs of the bible cd.


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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:19 am

coming out of the water? thats strange
but what about the ice age?
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:35 am

What's the importance of spirituality truth versus science truth?
Science and releigion are extremely diff topics and nriter can condradict eachother.
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PostSubject: Re: religious debate revive   Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:41 am

Jonathan .B wrote:
i have one fact, there are no dinosaurs in the bible

idk if this qualifies as "dinosaurs" but it does talk about fire breathing serpants and stuff like that

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